Hello all, I have many times been sitting on my back porch watching the desert wishing I had a drone I could fly out to photograph what is out there. To get something that would be worthwhile for any kind of photography (1080p minimum) it appeared I was going to have to spend $700 to $1000 if I wanted something that could fly 20 minutes or longer. The DJI Phantom is of course the market leader in camera quads. You can spend anywhere from $800 to $2000 on a DJI phantom depending on what optics, features, etc. you want. I just could not justify in my mind spending that kind of money for something that may or may not work out the way I want it to. I would like to photograph animals, but quads can be noisy so... it may not work well for that. Then suddenly a new company called "Winglsand" entered the picture. They were producing a model they call the "Wingsland Minivet" that essentially has the same performance and camera as the DJI phantom standard... but they only wanted $500 as they are trying to break into the market. This began to interest me. They not only have a gimble mounted 12mp camera (also records at 1080p/30fps) it also has a 5 inch live view screen mounted to the controller. The DJI requires you to use a smart phone or tablet to get live view during flight and that is not included in their $800 package. Further research showed that these Wingsland quads are built in the same factory as the DJI quads. It is not a classic Chinese clone, as they have made it look different, and actually provide many features on this model that DJI only provides on their professional models which run $1200 to $2000 in cost. I began to think I might look into getting one of these. Then this week, they got very aggressive and through Dronenerds on Newegg, they put up the entire kit below for only $299!! (this sale ended yesterday 3/18/2017 but I anticipate there will be more) I just could not pass up that massive cut in price. This is a very aggressive grab at market share. I cannot build one of these from parts with my own design for $299! So I purchased one. This unit should arrive in about a week. I am hopeful I can get some cool animal vids, or just interesting vids of the desert with it. But first... I must learn how to fly it, which is another reason I was happy to get this thing for such a low price. As my first quad... I am quite certain I will crash it... the less cash I destroy the less bad I will feel when I do that Then I need to tell the wife... I am sure she is going to be thrilled! But once she sees what we can do with it I am fairly certain she will like it. I also anticipate it will be fairly loud. As soon as practical, I will begin experimenting with with some hybrid prop designs that reduce noise. I would also like to see if I can increase loiter time. This unit can stay in the air for 25 minutes from the factory which is not too bad. But if I could reduce prop noise, increase loiter time at the cost of top speed and agility, I would probably go for that. I want this for photography so it does not have to be an agile fighter. My son-in-law has a 3d printer, I may have to have him print some hybrid props for me. When I get this thing... If I can fly it long enough to get some decent video without crashing it, I will post them.